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  1. #1

    CPE 510 latest firmware with TEST MODE

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    Salve a tutti. Volevo sapere se qualcuno è in possesso dell'ultimo firmware della CPE510 con il quale era presente la modalità TEST MODE. Grazie


    Hello everyone. I wanted to know if someone is in possession of the last firmware of CPE510 with whom was present the TEST MODE. Thank you

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by gioffry76 View Post
    Model : Hardware Version : Firmware Version : ISP : [/COLOR]Salve a tutti. Volevo sapere se qualcuno è in possesso dell'ultimo firmware della CPE510 con il quale era presente la modalità TEST MODE. GrazieHello everyone. I wanted to know if someone is in possession of the last firmware of CPE510 with whom was present the TEST MODE. Thank you
    htttp://static.tp-link.com/TP_PharOS_2.0.0_161117.zip

    This firmware V2 is the same for CPE510. Selecting the test mode is only possible in initial setup. Late change is not possible.
    Last edited by sphreak; 03-08-2017 at 04:40.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by sphreak View Post
    htttp://static.tp-link.com/TP_PharOS_2.0.0_161117.zip

    This firmware V2 is the same for CPE510. Selecting the test mode is only possible in initial setup. Late change is not possible.

    thank you. But then it also runs on hardware V1.1?


    thank you. But then it also runs on hardware V1.1?

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by sphreak View Post
    Selecting the test mode is only possible in initial setup. Late change is not possible.
    Wrong. Test mode always shows up if you have an old (V1.0) device:

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    Furthermore, test mode is disabled starting with CPE hardware version 1.1, no matter which firmware version is being used.

  5. #5
    Hm, the thing regarding v.1.1 not supporting Test_Mode is probably not entirely true...

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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by RTouris View Post
    Hm, the thing regarding v.1.1 not supporting Test_Mode is probably not entirely true...
    The exact model is important. I also have a CPE510 V1.1 sold in the EU, which still has test mode and region selection in any firmware version up to 2.0.0. But I also have EAP EU models where region selection suddenly disappeared from one version to the next.

    The FCC and the EU regulatory authorities even discussed regulatory measures to force vendors to sign their firmware digitally, so that it will be impossible for users to replace the vendor's firmware by OSS firmware. Although they couldn't enforce this for the moment, it's probably still on their agenda.

    IMHO the problem is: the more people ignore legal restrictions such as the maximum EIRP allowed in their country, the sooner such restrictions will be tightened for all of us in the same legal system.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by RTouris View Post
    Hm, the thing regarding v.1.1 not supporting Test_Mode is probably not entirely true...

    Attachment 4879
    Anch'io ho provato a montare quel firmware ma nessuna scelta della regione... le mie CPE510 sono state acquistate a marzo 2017...4 pezzi... tutti /EU . tu che versione hai?

    Per R1D2..

    Ho notato infatti che i vecchi firmware non montano...hardware non compatibile...quindi sarà la firma. Pertanto nessuna possibilità giusto?

    Ho avuto 2 giorni di litigio con TP-Link Italia. Sono truffatori: sono molto attenti a non sconfinare nelle penalizzazioni per loro ma per il cliente? Sul sito è pubblicizzata ancora e sottolineata più volte la possibilità di regolare manualmente l'antenna a +27/db 500mV e tutti i venditori On Line continuano a copiare quelle caratteristiche dal sito ufficiale e postarle. In italia è "Pubblicità ingannevole", "Truffa ai danni del Consumatore"...

    Il problema non è modalità Test o no, e' un problema di chiarezza ed onesta: mi pubblicizzi un prodotto con delle caratteristiche che NON HA, quindi mi truffi...

    Farò di tutto per diffondere questa notizia

    Se qualcuno trova una soluzione per favore postate.

    La modalità Test serviva molto nel ridurre i tempi di puntamento e serviva per effettuare un bel link. Poi tutto ovviamente andava messo in ragione del proprio paese e se il link cadeva allora il lavoro non era fattibile...con quelle antenne ovviamente. Anch'io sono contrario all'uso selvaggio... ma sono schierato per l'onestà e la trasparenza


    .....in English.... With Google,.. :-)


    I also tried to mount the firmware but no choice of the region ... my CPE510 were purchased in March 2017 ... 4 ... all pieces / EU. you what version you have?To R1D2 ..In fact, I noticed that the old firmware will not fit ... hardware not compatible ... so it will be signed. Therefore no fair chance?I had two days of argument with TP-Link Italy. Are scammers: they are very careful not to intrude in the penalties for them but for the customer? On the site is advertised again and emphasized several times the possibility to manually adjust the a + 27 / db antenna 500mV and all Online sellers continue copying those features from the official website and post them. In Italy it is "False advertising", "fraud to the detriment of the consumer" ...The problem is no test mode or not, and 'a problem of clarity and honest: I advertise a product with the features that HAS NOT, so I cheat ...I will do everything to spread this newsIf someone finds a solution please posted.Test mode was used a lot in reducing the cue times and needed to make a nice link. Then of course everything was put by reason of their country, and if the link was falling then the work could not be done ... with those antennas course. I am also opposed to the use wild ... but are deployed for honesty and transparency

    I also tried to mount the firmware but no choice of the region ... my CPE510 were purchased in March 2017 ... 4 ... all pieces / EU. you what version you have?To R1D2 ..In fact, I noticed that the old firmware will not fit ... hardware not compatible ... so it will be signed. Therefore no fair chance?I had two days of argument with TP-Link Italy. Are scammers: they are very careful not to intrude in the penalties for them but for the customer? On the site is advertised again and emphasized several times the possibility to manually adjust the a + 27 / db antenna 500mV and all Online sellers continue copying those features from the official website and post them. In Italy it is "False advertising", "fraud to the detriment of the consumer" ...The problem is no test mode or not, and 'a problem of clarity and honest: I advertise a product with the features that HAS NOT, so I cheat ...I will do everything to spread this newsIf someone finds a solution please posted.Test mode was used a lot in reducing the cue times and needed to make a nice link. Then of course everything was put by reason of their country, and if the link was falling then the work could not be done ... with those antennas course. I am also opposed to the use wild ... but are deployed for honesty and transparency

  8. #8
    Gioffry76: It's always good practise to educate thyself prior to purchasing equipment that needs to abide by local laws and legislation.

    In this case regardless of the vendor's claims for the maximum bradcast power (dBm) the owner / installer is required to respect local legal restrivtions (EIRP / DFS usage) as is stated in the welcoming screen of the equipment setup. I'm not suggesting that there's not something sketchy here in terms of false advertising, but regardless think of it this way in terms of an everyday example: you buy a car that can do 250km/h, but you can only speed up to 130-140km/h (with the Autobahns being an exception in Germany) which is defined by local law. The manufacturer doesn't make any false claim since it's technicaly possible to do so (250km/h - 23dBm / no DFS / other channels), it's up to the owner / user to follow the law and stay within the limits imposed by the local legislation.

  9. #9
    @gioffry76, my model is CPE510 Ver. 1.1, bought around September 2016 via Amazon. Yes, it still has test mode as RTouris noted. Did confuse this with CPE210, which probably disabled test mode in V1.1 as reported in another thread. What model is shown on your device's label? Does it show "EU"?

    To clarify:

    The CPE510 model with region Germany or Italy selected works in RLAN band II only (5470 to 5725 MHz). In both countries the maximum EIRP for RLAN II is 30dBm (1 Watt or 1000mW) if the device has DFS support. The CPE510 has DFS support. Antenna gain is 13dBi, maximum TX power is 17dBm, so total EIRP is 17dBm + 13dBi = 30dBm with following setting:

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    You might compare this with your device's maximum range of the TX power slider in the Wireless menu.

    Maximum power this device can be set in test mode is indeed 23dBm (yields a total EIRP of 36dBm, which is 4 Watts). Since the RLAN II band is also used by weather radars and military radars (the reason why WiFi gear must support DFS), you better not use 4 Watts except if you want to risk getting into big trouble with regulatory authorities or if you want to fake the rain radar map shown on your favorite TV channel in some way.

    The German and Italian TP-Link websites are not of much help, since they are full of errors about CPE510 TX power/EIRP. For example this is from the Specifications section on the german TP-Link website:

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    They obviously couldn't decide what to choose for maximum values and so did list two different values, 23dBm probably being the maximum TX power in test mode, but no idea where the 27dBm come from.

    Ok, admittedly this TX power / dBm / dBi / EIRP stuff can be confusing. But luckily, it seems that TP-Link engineers did get it right if the specified antenna gain of 13dBi for a CPE510 is correct.
    Last edited by R1D2; 03-09-2017 at 21:48.


 

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