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    Set up as a Repeater

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    Hi

    I've just got my first CPE510 and want to set it up as a repeater for the moment.

    I have access to the unit via an Etnet cable directly to my iMac. I have selected Repeater from the Quick Menu, left the info as 192.168.0.254 and 255.255.255.0

    Gone to the next page and hit Survey but it doesn't find anything.

    I'm on BT internet using the latest BT Home Hub.

    Any ideas why I can't find the WiFi ?

    Thanks

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    CPE510 is an outdoor device. It uses the outdoor 5 GHz band. BT Home Hub is an indoor device using indoor channels in the 5 GHz band. Therefore, the CPE510 doesn't see your indoor WiFi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcrouch666 View Post

    Gone to the next page and hit Survey but it doesn't find anything.
    The available outdoor 5GHz for the UK are all DFS channels(Band B). As R1D2 said, BT Home Hub could run an indoor 5GHz channel. If you need to solve this, you shall buy a 2.4GHz outdoor AP. Or simply replace with an EAP110-Outdoor equipped with an omni-directional antenna which is better to work as a hotshot covering an outdoor environment .

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    I understood that all you need to do was have a CPE510 connect it to your router (cabled) or WiFi (wireless) and set it up as a repeater, this is not so then ?

    I have another CPE510 and want to set it up as a client to the AP but want a WiFi area between is this possible. ?

    Or should I just get a dedicated repeater and use that ?

    Also should I get the CPE210 will that work ?

    Many thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcrouch666 View Post
    I understood that all you need to do was have a CPE510 connect it to your router (cabled) or WiFi (wireless) and set it up as a repeater, this is not so then ?
    The CPEs are outdoor devices for building long-range point-to-point links (from one CPE to another CPE) in the kilometer range. They have a repeater mode just to extend the range, but they are not suitable as general repeaters and especially they are not suitable for indoor use.

    I have another CPE510 and want to set it up as a client to the AP but want a WiFi area between is this possible. ?
    See above. You can use the two CPEs to link two (wired) networks over WiFi, that's what they are designed for.

    Or should I just get a dedicated repeater and use that ?
    If you need to extend the range of your home WiFi, then yes, you would use an indoor repeater for this if you insist to use a repeater. I would rather recommend an additional AP wired to the main router to extend the WiFi coverage, but if for any reason you cannot use cables in your home consider use of a repeater (but it has dis-advantages to use repeaters such as cutting bandwidth in half per repeater).

    If you indeed want to cover an outdoor area, use the EAP110-Outdoor AP as Carat1 did suggest.

    In general the best way is to think first about what you want to achieve and then find the appropriate device for this use case, not the other way around (buying a device and looking for a suitable use case for it).
    Last edited by R1D2; 11-11-2017 at 10:40.

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    I live on a small holding where we need to have wifi in a stable yard away from the house. Maybe 700m away.

    Is it possible to connect the 510 to our BT home hub 2 in the house, mount the 510 on the outside of the house (wired) and have a client with another router attached in the stable block ?

    I then need to attach some cameras via ethernet to the router, is this the right unit for this (CPE510) or should I use a CPE210 as the BT Homehub 2 wont work with the 510 ?

    Will it also provide a Wifi zone between the two buildings ?

    I dont think the EAP110 will have the range for what we need ?

    Many thanks for the advice so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcrouch666 View Post
    Is it possible to connect the 510 to our BT home hub 2 in the house, mount the 510 on the outside of the house (wired) and have a client with another router attached in the stable block ?
    Yes, that's exactly what the CPE510 is for: to wirelessly connect your stable yard's network over 700m to your holding's network. Connect one CPE510 by wire to your BT router and place it on the roof of your house. At the stable yard use a second CPE510 also on the roof. Make sure both CPE510s are on the same height and are aligned to each other. Don't use CPE210 for this "wireless bridge" to not interfere with your WiFi in the holding and in the stable block.

    Connect a router (or even better: an access point such as EAP110 or similar for indoor use or EAP110-Outdoor for outdoor use) by wire with the second CPE510. The AP will distribute the network locally. Those APs are for short-range, omnidirectional coverage, while the CPEs are for long-range, directional transmission.

    I then need to attach some cameras via ethernet to the router, is this the right unit for this (CPE510) or should I use a CPE210 as the BT Homehub 2 wont work with the 510 ?
    If the cams are in the stable yard, connect a small Ethernet switch to the CPE510 and you can connect the cams using Ethernet cable with this switch as also the APs in the stable block. If indeed you meant to connect the cams wirelessly, connect them to the AP which itself is connected to the CPE510. Both CPEs and an AP just extend your BT hub's network.

    Will it also provide a Wifi zone between the two buildings ?
    Yes and no: yes, because it is a WiFi signal; no, because it is a beam rather than a zone and your laptops, tablets, smartphones etc. can't reach an AP over such a distance of 700m anyway. That's the reason why the CPE should be connected to an AP, which will create a local WiFi zone at the other end of the CPE's directional radio link. To avoid interferences, it's best to use 5 GHz for the radio link and 2.4 GHz for local distribution on both sides of the radio link.

    I dont think the EAP110 will have the range for what we need ?
    If mounted outside, an EAP110-Outdoor will cover an area of ~100 to 200m diameter in 360 direction (omnidirectional) depending on the environment.

    An indoor EAP110 would cover about 20 to 30m depending on number and material of the walls etc. inside your stable yard (and probably a little bit on the outside, too).

    EAPs are not suitable nor meant to establish links over 700m, that's the reason why CPEs have been designed. But CPEs won't cover an area, which the EAPs can supply. The difference between the two models are simply their antennas and the radiation patterns of the antennas.
    Last edited by R1D2; 11-11-2017 at 21:47.

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    Thats an awesome response, many thanks things are looking clearer now.

    Sincere thanks.

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    You're welcome. It's easy to build reliable networks once you know what devices are needed for which task. Have fun with your CPEs!


 

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